M HKA Ensembles

Mixed Media, 125 x 175 x 6 cm.

Collection: Collection Kaminski, Düsseldorf.

Excerpt of the conversation between Robert Filliou (RF) and Irmeline Lebeer (IL), Flayosc, France, August 1976.

RF: We’d have to look for an answer in science. When I say exterior and interior I’m probably wrong. In fact, there’s no difference between exterior and interior. It’s just a manner of speaking. The interior is in me. That’s part of the Poïpoïdrome: ‘The kingdom of arts is inside you.’
            We compare notes. It’s like when George says: ‘I’m a medium.’ He said it to me, and maybe to you. He certainly is. But it’s just a manner of speaking: he wouldn’t say that to someone who wouldn’t understand. I took as my example something I once told George I: ‘Do you think I should say things like that? Should I, for example, tell anecdotes like “the word is water”?’ He understands what this means. He said: ‘Yes. It doesn’t matter if he knows.’ It’s very difficult. We must make ourselves available and not present ourselves as special, because it happens to everyone.